Ha! Good one, stuck!
Muddy Waters
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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So how about that... "Jehovah, the God of the WT vampires."
If not for the garlic, I may not have ever made the connection.... Thank you, JW broadcasting.
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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.... being a little facetious today.... :)
The February 2016 broadcast has got me thinking. And remembering, that once upon a time, in our Kingdom Hall, we were actually counselled from the stage about not offending people when we go in service, for example, by NOT EATING GARLIC or other strong-smelling foods (onions, fish).
Yes, I believe the organization has a definite bias against garlic.
Which led me to think about other things they do. Vampire-like things. Now, forgive me, I do not know much about vampires. But there are vampire "stereotypes" or common lore, so I will stick with those most obvious and well known (at least to me, haha).
So. Here we go...
VAMPIRES.
- They shy away at garlic. They do not like garlic. Garlic is bad. Too much garlic makes Jehovah sad.
- They do not like crosses. Crosses are bad, they make Jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most JWs.
- They want to take your blood away from you, even if it means your life. You are supposed to bleed to death and die for them.
- They meet after dark (or sundown) for the most important day of their year - Jesus' death, in which he "poured out his blood" in our behalf. And we are supposed to be grateful and thankful for this, yet we have no part in sharing of this blood. They want it all to themselves.
Their flock are like little vampires in training, only they learn to reject blood and give it all to the WT, the master vampire.
- Do vampires not also steal your soul? (the WT teaches that we do not have one).
- And do they also not like looking into mirrors? (Not seeing, admitting, or acknowledging their own mistakes & errors; or because they have no soul (connection to others and to life outside their box...) Their mirror gives no reflection, or feedback of themselves to themselves; they remain clueless, disconnected, apart, yet still suck the soul and life from their (encouraged to be) meek and sheeplike followers.
Spooky! "Spiritual" vampires!
Lots of very interesting comparisons, yes?
I would love to go on with this analogy, but I do not know much more about (mythical) vampires. But I think I got the main comparisons.
What think ye all..?
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Good idea? Bad idea?
by Planetsmashers inmailing packages with garlic bread enclosed to still in family.
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Muddy Waters
Duh! lol, I totally thought I was on a different thread, talking about something else about the bread! Good grief. No wonder my answer sounded so irrelevant. Sorry about that.
Sending garlic bread to your family might send a message IF they actually watch the broadcast or at least hear about it from someone...
.... But what message would it send?
You might know what message you want to send them with the packages of garlic bread, but will they know?
It seems a bit abstract, and subject to (mis)interpretation.... I do like the idea, but the message may need to be explained or even spelled out to them. Like, they could think, "Yes, this garlic bread represents our imperfect self and our relationship with Jehovah and our various degrees of types of sin .... and obviously it is a very deep, spiritual subject... and what do YOU mean by sending us this bread?"
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Good idea? Bad idea?
by Planetsmashers inmailing packages with garlic bread enclosed to still in family.
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Also, to what degree is the garlic sprinkled upon the bread? Is it layers of the stuff or only a slight sprinkle?
What about the freshness of the bread, the purity...?
And what of yeast? So many variables...
Oh well, at least there are only 3 solutions -- being thrown into the garbage, being sliced up, or being eaten. In all 3 examples, the bread is damaged, assaulted or consumed, with no say or choice in the matter.
I have never felt so sorry for bread before....
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Muddy Waters
DataDog, I am glad you mentioned that about the victim in this case, a 14 year old boy. He too was disfellowshipped, along with his abuser. Probably for the "practice" of fornication, uncleanness, lewd or brazen conduct, etc.
And you are so right, this despicable action reveals much about the character of the WT cult!!! Blame the victim, punish the victim, abolish him, banish him, obliterate him, don't give him any support, help or counselling.
I think that society still has a double standard about young boys with older women -- a situation often seen as "less bad" or even desirable, than with an older male and young female, say a 30+ year old man with a 14 year old girl.... See? Does the latter sound worse somehow? To me, both situations are abominable. I have worked with children and youths, and though some of the kids can seem pretty "mature", they are not. They are still youths and children! With many insecurities and emotional needs.
In disfelllowshipping the young boy, the WT and its clueless leaders and followers again demonstrate the degree of their "knowledge" and empathy for a sexually abused child or youth who has been taken advantage of sexually. Despicable.
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Ha! Pete Zahut, I thought the same thing -- I was shocked too at how casually he just threw that loaf of bread away. They talk about how we need to make sacrifices, how Jehovah is so efficient and hates waste.... they go on and on about the widow's mite and what a fine example she was (yet the point of Jesus' observation was something totally different! It was actually meant to highlight the greed of the Pharisee's and their unreasonable expectations and harsh demands!! Read the account and see for yourself!!!) -- they show how children should sacrifice their own ice cream money -- then, poof -- out goes some perfectly good bread that he deliberately mucked up for some totally lame demonstration....!!!!!
And the other loaves probably got thrown out too afterward, after he grimed it all up in his hands... Who would want to eat it after that?
Such casual wastefulness. But I guess people who also have no qualms about throwing *people* away have no qualms about other important assets and valuables either. "Give us this day our daily bread.... so we can use it in a stupid demo and then throw it out...."
Be interesting how this appears to other people in developing countries. Good on ya, WT. Keep up the stupidity and cluelessness, it really is working. People are leaving, elders are stepping down, your flock is restless.... Is that what you wanted?
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omg. What.... What in the world.... What the heck....
I thought this was SATIRE!! I mean, really?? How can they be so..... so.... so utterly..... words fail me ....
We need to compile a "stupidest moments" thread of these broadcasting "highlights"....
I would open it with Lett saying "Welcome!" (Very beginning of Jan. 2016 broadcast), to the money begging from May 2015, to Splane's generation chart, to "the little cart with a big heart" & accompanying insipidly stupid song.... to this... this abomination of bread illustration.... to.... whatever other ridiculous inanities these leaders spout.....
Like a "Best of...!" Compilation. Oh yes, and end it with Splane (with weird & uncomfortable "helper" sitting beside him) crinkling up his face in a creepy & desperate attempt to show sincerity while he says, "We love you!"
*shudder*
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What sort of EX JW Book do you like to read?
by punkofnice inwhat sort of ex jw books do you folks like to read?.
i want to write another one.. i'm wondering what my next project should be...............
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PunkOfNice, I just downloaded your book.... thank you, will begin reading it right away! Love the cover, heh heh. -
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Who did you believe the scriptures were describing when you were a JW?
by James Mixon init never hit me until i was out.
matt:23;4 "they tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them.
on other people shoulders".
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Muddy Waters
It would be very interesting to ask a JW this question. Who are these scriptures talking about? -- who puts these heavy loads upon their flock?
And the j-dub would answer something like, "Why, the clergy of Christendom, of course." (an aside, have you ever noticed how often JWs and the publications preface or end a sentence with '... of course...'??)
And then you would ask, "And what are these heavy loads and burdens they put upon their flock..?"
Yes, I would love to ask those questions.....
(... and I used to wonder too, about Jesus' words about his load being light, and that we would find refreshment! It sure didn't feel that way!!)